John Allen (defender of the Vatican Trinity,i.e. John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Opus Dei) surreptitiously undermine SNAP's financial campaign
During the peak of Cardinal Mahoney’s $600 Million pay-off to victims of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army in Los Angeles, there were many giant octopus that were washed ashore the beach near Los Angeles. John Allen was praising Cardinal Mahony and no priests dared to ask for Mahony's resignation (unlike our bold priests in Boston who ousted Cardinal Law). We revealed that John Allen is one of the tentacles of Octopus Dei http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2008/07/opus-dei-pope-john-paul-ii-insult-our.html, and, he is at it again. This time he is secretly and subtly knocking down the financial campaigns by SNAP and Voice of the Desert "to stop donating to the Catholic Church and donate to charity instead".
John Allen, the author par excellence of the book Opus Dei (the only book approved by OD), has become such an expert about the Vatican that we must read in-between the lines about what he reports on because he is an agent of the Opus Dei World Domination Agenda. If Opus Dei member Robert Hanssen was able to be so secretive and slimy so as to become the United States worst spy agent (true story of the greatest security breach in U.S. history), John Allen is the Robert Hanssen of the Catholic Church and we cannot trust his secretive slimy journalism (see our post December 19, 2009 about Hanssen and Opus Dei http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2009/12/john-paul-ii-in-movies-and-breach.html
Less we forget, John Allen was the one who broke the news about Benedict XVI's first "apology" for priest-pedophilia over 'coffee' with him inside the papal airplane to the USA, a few minutes before it landed. Imagine, Benedict XVI expresses apology over coffee inside an airplane - for the first time - through John Allen. A papal apology for the worst crime against American children is dealt with over coffee via John Allen! It’s beyond ridiculous and preposterous! Do you recall, folks, Benedict XVI's 81st birthday bash in Washington DC?
Oh, and Benedict XVI celebrated Mass at the Yankee stadium distributing the « real flesh of Christ » to 60,000 thousand Catholics, see our post : Benedict XVI has no power to say « Let there be God » in the Eucharist just like he has no power to say « Let there be light » in Genesis http://pope-ratz.blogspot.com/2009/12/benedict-xvi-has-no-power-to-say-let.html (but he won’t celebrate one single Mass with the Jesuits during their General Congregation, a few steps near the Vatican).
Now, now, see, how John Allen defends the money of the richest institution on the planet, the Vatican, in a strategy to counter-attack all the campaigns "to stop donating to the church and donate to charity instead" by SNAP and Voice of the Desert. Read these articles below, it is now the subtle war-of-words by John Allen against SNAP and Voice of the Desert. See the hidden agenda of John Allen in defence of the Vatican and as an agent of the Opus Dei. Opus Dei controlled the 26 years papacy of John Paul II and because of them, the victims of priest pedophilia were totally swept under the Vatican rug. And John Allen never spoke-up for the victims of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army http://jp2army.blogspot.com/
John Allen has the shamelessness to use the University of Notre Dame as his example. Why UND? Because the Opus Dei has its evil eye to make a hostile take-over of this university through its Board of Directors members of Opus Dei...just like they have their Octopus Dei-eyes on all the 28 Jesuit universities in the United States, and for that matter the Gregorian University in Rome and all Jesuit Universities in the World. Opus Dei has an obsession to overpower the Jesuits and they will use all their Octopus Dei ways to suppress the Jesuits like the Popes during the Jesuit Suppression. And Opus Dei is in a hurry to beatify and canonize John Paul II because he and St. Josemaria Escriva are wedded blissfully in their Mystical Marriage see http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2007/10/john-paul-ii-opus-dei-da-vinci-code.html
John Allen's propaganda for the Vatican is very timely, December 9, 2009.
Voice of the Desert's campaign was November 27, 2009
SNAP's campaign was November 23, 2009 (among others)
And we revealed that the Vatican is being investigated for money laundering on December 14, 2009. The Italian government announced its investigation on the Vatican Bank on December 7, 2009, and therefore John Allen had to write his deceitful article in defense of the Vatican finances on December 9, 2009 in an attempt to undermine the Italian government's investigation.
John Allen the Robert Hanssen of the Catholic Church is at it again: SNAP and all Catholics fighting for justice, be aware and be wary about what he writes because we the laity cannot trust him just like the US government couldn't trust Hanssen!
Here are the web links and below are the full articles. Read closely folks, there is now the Vatican Trinity: John Paul II, Benedict XVI and the Opus Dei who controls these papacies and the Vatican. And John Allen, author of Opus Dei, is one of their best spy and messenger! Somebody has to expose them and we will continue to do so because of the imminent beatification of John Paul II -- No American child should pray to "saint" John Paul II who was responsible for the bestial-sodomy-feasts of his John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army.
John Paul II did not have the charity of Mother Teresa
http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2009/11/john-paul-ii-did-not-have-charity-of.html
Compare the CRIMES and their VICTIMS in America
Victims - Attackers - Responsible Leader
Pearl Harbor - 3,000 victims - 170 planes - Admiral Yamamoto
WTC & 9/11 attacks - 5,000 victims - 19 Muslims - Osama bin Laden
USA Priest Pedophilia - 12,000 victims - 6,000 priests - John Paul II
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Clergy sex abuse victims blast church - SNAP Press Release
23 Nov 2009 ... SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, ... call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball ...
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Clergy sex victims urge donations to WI diocese - SNAP Press Release
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VOICE of the DESERT
“STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY”
27 Nov 2009
http://reform-network.net/?p=2403
I received the following media release from Rev. Bob Hoatson of Road to Recovery today, 11.27.2009.
I agree with Bob’s call to action to stop donating money.
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MEDIA RELEASE
STOP FEEDING THE BEAST
In light of the release of the “Murphy Report” on child sex abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin, Ireland, Road to Recovery, Inc., a New Jersey-based non-profit organization that assists clergy abuse survivors with their recoveries from abuse, calls on all Catholics to withhold contributions from their Church until Popes, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, and other Church authorities who covered-up and enabled the serial abuse of children worldwide RESIGN, ARE REMOVED, ARE INDICTED, AND/OR ARE IMPRISONED.
When Cardinal Bernard Law resigned as Archbishop of Boston, he was whisked to Rome to avoid being held accountable for the massive cover-up of Boston Archdiocese abuse. Nations throughout the world, like Ireland, must not allow church officials to flee their countries with immunity, and Catholics worldwide must stop donating to the criminal enterprise known as the Roman Catholic Church. Catholics, who withheld contributions temporarily around 2003, must stop donating again…permanently.
Road to Recovery calls on all Catholics to:
STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY
Instead, we urge all donations be sent to organizations such as Road to Recovery and other “survivor supporter” organizations where they will be used to assist innocent victims of abusive priests and their enablers. Or, we ask that Catholics direct their donations and assistance to their neighbors who have been harmed by local parish priests, brothers, and nuns.
Rev. Robert M. Hoatson, Ph.D.
Founder and President
Road to Recovery, Inc.
P.O. Box 279
Livingston, New Jersey 07039
862-368-2800
3 Responses to “STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY”
1. David in AZ Says:
November 28, 2009 at 1:38 am I agree and will stop all donations at once and that includes priest friends and their ministries. There are deserving non catholic charities who I can send my money to. I will also inform “Bishop” Olmsted of that here in Phoenix.
2. Arthur Baselice Says:
November 28, 2009 at 2:09 pm I agree and have stopped attending a church that enables, protects and covers up ‘ ABUSE” how could anyone with any sense of right and wrong support an orginazation that engages in this type of behavior and then has the aggorgance to claim they represent “GOD”?
3. Thomas Says:
November 29, 2009 at 4:25 am I think that we all agree, that the loss of funds is the only thing that hierarchy understands—and since our Church is no longer poor—ask yourself, “what would Jesus do?” And then do it for HIM.
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“Send the Bishops a Message news conferences in Chicago and L.A., Monday, Nov. 10th”
http://reform-network.net/?p=2205
Nov. 7, 2008
Send the Bishops a Message will hold sidewalk news conferences in Chicago and Los Angeles on Monday, November 10th. Here are the notices announcing the news conferences:
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Notice of Chicago Sidewalk News Conference on November 10th
Chicago — Nov 7, 2008 –
New Catholic group urges parishioners “Stop Donating”
It decries continuing protection of pedophile priests by bishops
Lay people must use “power of the purse” to “force real reform”
Ongoing secrecy in Church finances is basically “taxation without representation”
Nov. 16th is first international “Withholding Sunday”
WHAT
Holding signs at a sidewalk news conference, Catholics will prod fellow parishioners to withhold financial donations on November 16th which will be the first nationwide, indeed worldwide Withholding Sunday, to send the bishops a message that irresponsibility and secrecy will no longer be tolerated
WHEN
Monday, Nov 10, 11:00 a.m.
WHERE
Outside Chicago archdiocesan headquarters, 155 East Superior, in downtown Chicago
WHO
Three-four members of a new organization called “Send the Bishops a Message” (http://www.sendthebishopsamessage.com) and supporters from SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPnetwork.org) ; the Catholic reform group Voice of the Faithful (VOTF.org); We Are Catholics (wearecatholics.com); and the Coalition of Concerned Catholics.
WHY
Reasons we are taking this action:
· The ongoing failure of Catholic Church officials to protect our children from dangerous clerical predators
· The bishops’ failure to provide acceptable levels of stewardship for our hard-earned donations
· The refusal of Church officials to accept responsibility for their grave moral failures in the clergy sex abuse crisis. They repeatedly “apologize,” but neither admit to covering up sex crimes against children nor accept their part in the grave scandal brought down upon Catholics everywhere.
· After almost 6 years since the Dallas Charter of 2002, we are still witnessing high-level Church officials protecting both clerical sexual predators and those who shield these predators
· Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George, the current head of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), refused to follow his own sex abuse review board’s recommendation that he, George, suspend a priest, Fr, Dan Mc Cormack, who had been arrested for sexual abuse of a minor. Three months after Cardinal George’s refusal to act against Fr. McCormack, this priest molested at least three more boys in Chicago’s inner city. One of the children, prosecutors say, had been assaulted “on an almost daily” basis.
· Catholics have no elections, recall procedures, or impeachment processes that allow them to replace those who have cost parishioners so much. Withholding donations is the best way for a disenfranchised laity to send, with one voice, a message to church officials in the only language they understand–MONEY!
CONTACT – Frank Douglas, national director of Send the Bishops a Message, 520 404 2489 (cell) or 520 579 9575 (home); Rick Springer 773 485 2447; Matt McCormick 847 361 3633; Therese Albrecht 708 263 3050
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Notice of Los Angeles Sidewalk News Conference on November 10th
Los Angeles — Nov 7, 2008 –
New Catholic group urges parishioners “Stop Donating”
It decries continuing protection of pedophile priests by bishops
Lay people must use “power of the purse” to “force real reform”
Ongoing secrecy in Church finances is basically “taxation without representation”
Nov. 16th is first international “Withholding Sunday”
WHAT
Holding signs at a sidewalk news conference, Catholics will prod fellow parishioners to withhold financial donations on November 16th . This first nationwide, indeed worldwide Withholding Sunday, will send the bishops a message that irresponsibility and secrecy will no longer be tolerated
WHEN
Monday, Nov 10, 11:30 a.m.
WHERE
Outside the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels, 555 W Temple St, in downtown Los Angeles
WHO
Three-four members of a new organization called “Send the Bishops a Message” (http://www.sendthebishopsamessage.com) and supporters from SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPnetwork.org) and a Catholic reform group called Voice of the Faithful (VOTF.org)
WHY
Reasons we are taking this action:
* The ongoing failure of Catholic Church officials to protect children from dangerous clerical predators
* The bishops’ failure to provide acceptable levels of stewardship for Catholics’ hard-earned donations
* The refusal of Church officials to accept responsibility for their grave moral failures in the clergy sex abuse crisis. They repeatedly “apologize,” but neither admit to covering up sex crimes against children nor accept their part in the grave scandal brought down upon Catholics everywhere.
* After almost 6 years since the Dallas Charter of 2002, high-level Church officials are still protecting both clerical sexual predators and those who shield these predators
* Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony approved a $660 million settlement with clergy sex abuse victims, yet still uses every legal maneuver at his disposal to maintain the secrecy of Church files he agreed to hand over to victims’ attorneys as part of the settlement.
* Catholics have no elections, recall procedures, or impeachment processes that allow them to replace those who have cost parishioners so much. Withholding donations is the best way for a disenfranchised laity to send, with one voice, a message to church officials in the only language they understand–MONEY!
CONTACT – Frank Douglas, national director of Send the Bishops a Message, 520 404 2489 (cell) or 520 579 9575 (home); Debby Bodkin 949 290 5516; Mary Jane McGraw 818 917 3555; Sam Cordova 818 667 1005
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Clergy sex abuse victims blast church - SNAP Press Release
23 Nov 2009
... SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, ... call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball ...
www.snapnetwork.org/snap.../112309_clergy_sex_abuse_victims_blast_church.htm
SNAP Press Release
Clergy sex abuse victims blast church
KC-based denomination blames child victims for their abuse
Legal move is “mean spirited” & “designed to intimidate,” group says
SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, children who’ve been hurt”
“Have you learned nothing from the on-going Catholic sex scandal?” victims challenge church
WHAT
Holding signs and childhood photos at a sidewalk news conference, clergy sex abuse victims will
-- harshly criticize a KC-based national church organization for filing court papers that blame children who were molested for their own abuse,
-- call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball legal tactics stop, and
-- beg anyone who saw, suspected or suffer child sex crimes or cover ups in the church group to call police and get help
WHEN
Monday, Nov. 23, 11:30 am
WHERE
Outside the Church of the Nazarene Headquarters, at 6401 Paseo Blvd (corner of Meyer & 63rd. st.) in Kansas City, MO (816-333-7000)
WHO
Three members of a support group called SNAP (the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, SNAPnetwork.org)
WHY
Last year, five girls (three from Oklahoma and one from Louisiana) filed a civil child sex abuse and cover up lawsuit seeking unspecified damage against men and institutions with the KC-based Church of the Nazarene. In response, church officials have filed court papers charging that, to some degree, the girls are to blame for their own victimization. SNAP calls the legal maneuver “outrageous and immoral.” The self help group believes that church officials will likely stop exploiting such harsh tactics if church members withhold donations in protest.
Starting around 2000, the girls were reportedly “sexually molested, abused, fondled and inappropriately touched” by their children's pastor, Ryan Wonderly in an Oklahoma City suburb. Wonderly attended Southern Nazarene University (SNU) and admitted to an SNU staffer named Lynn Sims that he had problems with child porn, according to the lawsuit. Instead of helping, suspending or expelling Wonderly, SNU officials permitted him to continue on as an intern children's pastor at Bethany First Church of the Nazarene across the street. Church members and employees there repeatedly reported suspicious and inappropriate behavior and touching by Wonderly to higher ups, but little was done. Police arrested Wonderly in 2004. He is now behind bars, having been sentenced to 35 years.
Wonderly also reportedly worked at a church camp where children from 22 counties from northwest Oklahoma attended each year.
Defendants include 4 church institutions (the Nazarene General Board, the church’s Northwest Oklahoma District, Southern Nazarene University, and Bethany First Church of the Nazarene) and 4 individuals (Doug Forsberg, Lewis McClain, Harold “Melvin” McCullough, Preston “Lynn” Sims).
The church’s district office is in Oklahoma City.
The congregation (405-789-2050) and the university are in Bethany (405-789-6400). Three of the defendants live in Oklahoma (McClain in Bethany, Forsberg in Yukon, and Sims in Oklahoma City) and one (McCullough) lives in Missouri (in Johnson County, suburban Kansas City).
The lawsuit was filed in May 2008 in Oklahoma County, OK (Case No. CJ 2008 3689). The court clerk is Patricia Presley.
http://www.kwtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8217135, http://newsok.com/article/3234282/1209013863\
CONTACT:
Judy Jones 636-433-2511, David Clohessy 314-566-9790
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CNN to ponder faith and money
By John L Allen Jr
Created Dec 09, 2009
http://ncronline.org/blogs/future-church/cnn-ponder-faith-and-money
I’m in New York this week, with part of the agenda being to tape a panel discussion for an upcoming CNN special on “Faith and Money.” The program is hosted by Christine Romans, and is scheduled to air on Dec. 19. (Coincidentally, that’s the last day of Hanukkah this year.)
I don't identify money management as a self-standing trend in The Future Church, but it's hard to imagine much of a future for any religious enterprise if it's broke. As the saying goes, the love of money may be the root of all evil ... but you sure do miss the money when it's gone.
The CNN program covers a vast range of topics, from the economics of Mega-churches (a segment driven by an interview with Joel Osteen) to the effect of church money on American politics. I was part of a panel devoted to trying to gauge the impact of the economic crisis on religious groups around the country.
Without stealing the show’s thunder, I can briefly summarize three points I tried to make:
First, religion may be the only industry in America whose bottom line actually suffers when demand goes up, and that’s exactly the current situation. Demand for charitable help is spiking, with record numbers of people asking for assistance with food, medicine, emergency shelter, and rent and mortgage payments. At the same time, revenue for many religious groups is down. In the Catholic world, parishes are reporting slight drop-offs in weekly collections (one estimate pegs the national average at five percent), while income from major foundations and investments is down on the order of 20 to 35 percent. As a result, many religious groups are now between a rock and a hard place.
It’s worth bearing in mind that there’s been no TARP program and no bail-out for non-profit groups in America, despite the fact that they’re our last line of defense when times get tough. When the public safety net breaks down, and when families can’t provide care, it’s non-profit groups, especially faith-based groups, that step into the gap, and many right now are struggling. (The not-for-profit sector, by the way, also represents 11 percent of all jobs in America.) All this, perhaps, represents an extra reason for Americans to try to be generous in their support of non-profit and faith-based charities.
Second, impressions of vast wealth in the Catholic church, perhaps especially the Vatican, are more myth than reality. As I’ve pointed out many times, the annual budget of the Vatican is about $300 million, while the University of Notre Dame by itself has a budget of over $1 billion. That means Notre Dame could fund the Vatican three times ever year and still have money left over for new football uniforms!
As a result, there are no bags of cash sitting in the basement of the Apostolic Palace in Rome that could be shipped off to the United States (or anywhere else) to help local churches out when money is tight.
Third, dollars are cents are perhaps the single clearest example of how external impressions of Catholicism as highly centralized and rigidly controlled break down.
The Catholic church isn’t Wal-Mart, where even the temperature level in individual stores is controlled by a central computer in Arkansas. Not only are the financial decisions of individual dioceses made autonomously, but most often that’s the case parish-to-parish. Even within parishes, sometimes the most elementary financial controls are missing.
If that weren’t the case, it’s hard to imagine how two priests in Florida could have been recently busted for skimming almost $9 million in parish money to fund trips to Las Vegas, or how the District Attorney in Buffalo, New York, could have prosecuted six embezzlement cases in Catholic parishes since 2005 alone, with the grand total exceeding $2 million.
Right now, however, two forces may be pushing the Catholic church toward greater coordination of its financial life.
One is the desire to get a handle on misappropriation. A Villanova study recently found that 85 percent of parishes that responded to a questionnaire reported some problem with embezzlement in the last five years, and that reality is leading a number of pastors and bishops to try to strengthen controls.
The other is the opportunity cost produced by a lack of coordination. The National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management recently calculated that if you add up all the Catholic parishes and dioceses in America, they have a total purchasing power of some $105 billion – nearly twice that of Home Depot. By coordinating its buying activity, the church could theoretically achieve some impressive economies of scale.
If nothing else, I hope that whets the appetite for the Dec. 19 CNN special, which considers not just the Catholic situation but the entire gamut of American religion and its relationship with the “almighty dollar.”
Comments:
Dear John. Your comment on
Submitted by Joanna Manning (not verified) on Dec. 09, 2009.
Dear John.
Your comment on this CNN inquiry into on the wealth of the churches and their co-option into the "almighty dollar" theology of American life is interesting. You seem to apologize for the wealth of the Vatican, on the grounds that the Vatican's assets are relatively small in comparison to other corporations. Does this indicate that you support a theology of the Catholic Church's mission in contemporary North American society that is loth to challenge its status as a corporation that has invested its financial assets in the status quo to such an extent that it is now inextricably part of the 'realpolitik' of corporate life? If so, I wonder how this view would stand up to the market economics of the early church as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 5: vv. 1-11. Ananias and Sapphira are struck dead for - abortion? sex? - no! - because of not sharing their wealth, and about how much they had lied about their profits from their investments so that they could retain control over a part of their assets.
How many times in Sunday services do we hear semons preached on this passage from Acts? Food for thought for all of us in the North American church....
Joanna Manning
Toronto, Canada
John, It is my hope that
Submitted by ghfisher (not verified) on Dec. 10, 2009.
John,
It is my hope that somebody in the group discussed the terrible waste of money hiring lawyers to prevent documents from being released - even after the diocese's pedifile cases had been settled - Mostly to protect some Cardinal (be him from LA or NY) from embarrassment. And this does not even consider the money used to hide the truth rather than treat the victims.
I now give very careful consideration of how and to whom I make charitable contributions. The diocese in Maine went out to the US Church to support the opposition to CIVIL gay marriage. As a result of election laws I read that Bishop D'Arcy sent $1000.00 of 'my' contribution to support this cause. How much 'Catholic' money was spent in CA to defeat Prop 8?
We are also 'expected' to contribute to the current Inquisition of Nuns - another denigration of women.
I could go on but you get my drift.
I have no reason to expect any contribution made to a general Church fund to be spent in support of charity so I contribute directly to St Mary's Soup Kitchen in Fort Wayne, our sister parish in Bolivia, other Catholic charities and earmark my parish contributions so that they are not subject to Bishop D/Arcy's Tax.
John Allen, the author par excellence of the book Opus Dei (the only book approved by OD), has become such an expert about the Vatican that we must read in-between the lines about what he reports on because he is an agent of the Opus Dei World Domination Agenda. If Opus Dei member Robert Hanssen was able to be so secretive and slimy so as to become the United States worst spy agent (true story of the greatest security breach in U.S. history), John Allen is the Robert Hanssen of the Catholic Church and we cannot trust his secretive slimy journalism (see our post December 19, 2009 about Hanssen and Opus Dei http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2009/12/john-paul-ii-in-movies-and-breach.html
Less we forget, John Allen was the one who broke the news about Benedict XVI's first "apology" for priest-pedophilia over 'coffee' with him inside the papal airplane to the USA, a few minutes before it landed. Imagine, Benedict XVI expresses apology over coffee inside an airplane - for the first time - through John Allen. A papal apology for the worst crime against American children is dealt with over coffee via John Allen! It’s beyond ridiculous and preposterous! Do you recall, folks, Benedict XVI's 81st birthday bash in Washington DC?
Oh, and Benedict XVI celebrated Mass at the Yankee stadium distributing the « real flesh of Christ » to 60,000 thousand Catholics, see our post : Benedict XVI has no power to say « Let there be God » in the Eucharist just like he has no power to say « Let there be light » in Genesis http://pope-ratz.blogspot.com/2009/12/benedict-xvi-has-no-power-to-say-let.html (but he won’t celebrate one single Mass with the Jesuits during their General Congregation, a few steps near the Vatican).
Now, now, see, how John Allen defends the money of the richest institution on the planet, the Vatican, in a strategy to counter-attack all the campaigns "to stop donating to the church and donate to charity instead" by SNAP and Voice of the Desert. Read these articles below, it is now the subtle war-of-words by John Allen against SNAP and Voice of the Desert. See the hidden agenda of John Allen in defence of the Vatican and as an agent of the Opus Dei. Opus Dei controlled the 26 years papacy of John Paul II and because of them, the victims of priest pedophilia were totally swept under the Vatican rug. And John Allen never spoke-up for the victims of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army http://jp2army.blogspot.com/
John Allen has the shamelessness to use the University of Notre Dame as his example. Why UND? Because the Opus Dei has its evil eye to make a hostile take-over of this university through its Board of Directors members of Opus Dei...just like they have their Octopus Dei-eyes on all the 28 Jesuit universities in the United States, and for that matter the Gregorian University in Rome and all Jesuit Universities in the World. Opus Dei has an obsession to overpower the Jesuits and they will use all their Octopus Dei ways to suppress the Jesuits like the Popes during the Jesuit Suppression. And Opus Dei is in a hurry to beatify and canonize John Paul II because he and St. Josemaria Escriva are wedded blissfully in their Mystical Marriage see http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2007/10/john-paul-ii-opus-dei-da-vinci-code.html
John Allen's propaganda for the Vatican is very timely, December 9, 2009.
Voice of the Desert's campaign was November 27, 2009
SNAP's campaign was November 23, 2009 (among others)
And we revealed that the Vatican is being investigated for money laundering on December 14, 2009. The Italian government announced its investigation on the Vatican Bank on December 7, 2009, and therefore John Allen had to write his deceitful article in defense of the Vatican finances on December 9, 2009 in an attempt to undermine the Italian government's investigation.
John Allen the Robert Hanssen of the Catholic Church is at it again: SNAP and all Catholics fighting for justice, be aware and be wary about what he writes because we the laity cannot trust him just like the US government couldn't trust Hanssen!
Here are the web links and below are the full articles. Read closely folks, there is now the Vatican Trinity: John Paul II, Benedict XVI and the Opus Dei who controls these papacies and the Vatican. And John Allen, author of Opus Dei, is one of their best spy and messenger! Somebody has to expose them and we will continue to do so because of the imminent beatification of John Paul II -- No American child should pray to "saint" John Paul II who was responsible for the bestial-sodomy-feasts of his John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army.
John Paul II did not have the charity of Mother Teresa
http://jp2m.blogspot.com/2009/11/john-paul-ii-did-not-have-charity-of.html
Compare the CRIMES and their VICTIMS in America
Victims - Attackers - Responsible Leader
Pearl Harbor - 3,000 victims - 170 planes - Admiral Yamamoto
WTC & 9/11 attacks - 5,000 victims - 19 Muslims - Osama bin Laden
USA Priest Pedophilia - 12,000 victims - 6,000 priests - John Paul II
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7 Nov 2008 ... SNAP events in Baltimore while US bishops meet there this week » ... New Catholic group urges parishioners “Stop Donating” ... Ongoing secrecy in Church finances is basically “taxation without representation” ...
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Clergy sex abuse victims blast church - SNAP Press Release
23 Nov 2009 ... SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, ... call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball ...
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Clergy sex victims urge donations to WI diocese - SNAP Press Release
16 Nov 2009 ... For the first time in its 20 year history, SNAP is urging Catholics across the US to stop donating to their local bishop and contribute ...
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VOICE of the DESERT
“STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY”
27 Nov 2009
http://reform-network.net/?p=2403
I received the following media release from Rev. Bob Hoatson of Road to Recovery today, 11.27.2009.
I agree with Bob’s call to action to stop donating money.
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MEDIA RELEASE
STOP FEEDING THE BEAST
In light of the release of the “Murphy Report” on child sex abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin, Ireland, Road to Recovery, Inc., a New Jersey-based non-profit organization that assists clergy abuse survivors with their recoveries from abuse, calls on all Catholics to withhold contributions from their Church until Popes, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, and other Church authorities who covered-up and enabled the serial abuse of children worldwide RESIGN, ARE REMOVED, ARE INDICTED, AND/OR ARE IMPRISONED.
When Cardinal Bernard Law resigned as Archbishop of Boston, he was whisked to Rome to avoid being held accountable for the massive cover-up of Boston Archdiocese abuse. Nations throughout the world, like Ireland, must not allow church officials to flee their countries with immunity, and Catholics worldwide must stop donating to the criminal enterprise known as the Roman Catholic Church. Catholics, who withheld contributions temporarily around 2003, must stop donating again…permanently.
Road to Recovery calls on all Catholics to:
STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY
Instead, we urge all donations be sent to organizations such as Road to Recovery and other “survivor supporter” organizations where they will be used to assist innocent victims of abusive priests and their enablers. Or, we ask that Catholics direct their donations and assistance to their neighbors who have been harmed by local parish priests, brothers, and nuns.
Rev. Robert M. Hoatson, Ph.D.
Founder and President
Road to Recovery, Inc.
P.O. Box 279
Livingston, New Jersey 07039
862-368-2800
3 Responses to “STOP DONATING MONEY TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IMMEDIATELY”
1. David in AZ Says:
November 28, 2009 at 1:38 am I agree and will stop all donations at once and that includes priest friends and their ministries. There are deserving non catholic charities who I can send my money to. I will also inform “Bishop” Olmsted of that here in Phoenix.
2. Arthur Baselice Says:
November 28, 2009 at 2:09 pm I agree and have stopped attending a church that enables, protects and covers up ‘ ABUSE” how could anyone with any sense of right and wrong support an orginazation that engages in this type of behavior and then has the aggorgance to claim they represent “GOD”?
3. Thomas Says:
November 29, 2009 at 4:25 am I think that we all agree, that the loss of funds is the only thing that hierarchy understands—and since our Church is no longer poor—ask yourself, “what would Jesus do?” And then do it for HIM.
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“Send the Bishops a Message news conferences in Chicago and L.A., Monday, Nov. 10th”
http://reform-network.net/?p=2205
Nov. 7, 2008
Send the Bishops a Message will hold sidewalk news conferences in Chicago and Los Angeles on Monday, November 10th. Here are the notices announcing the news conferences:
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Notice of Chicago Sidewalk News Conference on November 10th
Chicago — Nov 7, 2008 –
New Catholic group urges parishioners “Stop Donating”
It decries continuing protection of pedophile priests by bishops
Lay people must use “power of the purse” to “force real reform”
Ongoing secrecy in Church finances is basically “taxation without representation”
Nov. 16th is first international “Withholding Sunday”
WHAT
Holding signs at a sidewalk news conference, Catholics will prod fellow parishioners to withhold financial donations on November 16th which will be the first nationwide, indeed worldwide Withholding Sunday, to send the bishops a message that irresponsibility and secrecy will no longer be tolerated
WHEN
Monday, Nov 10, 11:00 a.m.
WHERE
Outside Chicago archdiocesan headquarters, 155 East Superior, in downtown Chicago
WHO
Three-four members of a new organization called “Send the Bishops a Message” (http://www.sendthebishopsamessage.com) and supporters from SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPnetwork.org) ; the Catholic reform group Voice of the Faithful (VOTF.org); We Are Catholics (wearecatholics.com); and the Coalition of Concerned Catholics.
WHY
Reasons we are taking this action:
· The ongoing failure of Catholic Church officials to protect our children from dangerous clerical predators
· The bishops’ failure to provide acceptable levels of stewardship for our hard-earned donations
· The refusal of Church officials to accept responsibility for their grave moral failures in the clergy sex abuse crisis. They repeatedly “apologize,” but neither admit to covering up sex crimes against children nor accept their part in the grave scandal brought down upon Catholics everywhere.
· After almost 6 years since the Dallas Charter of 2002, we are still witnessing high-level Church officials protecting both clerical sexual predators and those who shield these predators
· Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George, the current head of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), refused to follow his own sex abuse review board’s recommendation that he, George, suspend a priest, Fr, Dan Mc Cormack, who had been arrested for sexual abuse of a minor. Three months after Cardinal George’s refusal to act against Fr. McCormack, this priest molested at least three more boys in Chicago’s inner city. One of the children, prosecutors say, had been assaulted “on an almost daily” basis.
· Catholics have no elections, recall procedures, or impeachment processes that allow them to replace those who have cost parishioners so much. Withholding donations is the best way for a disenfranchised laity to send, with one voice, a message to church officials in the only language they understand–MONEY!
CONTACT – Frank Douglas, national director of Send the Bishops a Message, 520 404 2489 (cell) or 520 579 9575 (home); Rick Springer 773 485 2447; Matt McCormick 847 361 3633; Therese Albrecht 708 263 3050
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Notice of Los Angeles Sidewalk News Conference on November 10th
Los Angeles — Nov 7, 2008 –
New Catholic group urges parishioners “Stop Donating”
It decries continuing protection of pedophile priests by bishops
Lay people must use “power of the purse” to “force real reform”
Ongoing secrecy in Church finances is basically “taxation without representation”
Nov. 16th is first international “Withholding Sunday”
WHAT
Holding signs at a sidewalk news conference, Catholics will prod fellow parishioners to withhold financial donations on November 16th . This first nationwide, indeed worldwide Withholding Sunday, will send the bishops a message that irresponsibility and secrecy will no longer be tolerated
WHEN
Monday, Nov 10, 11:30 a.m.
WHERE
Outside the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels, 555 W Temple St, in downtown Los Angeles
WHO
Three-four members of a new organization called “Send the Bishops a Message” (http://www.sendthebishopsamessage.com) and supporters from SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPnetwork.org) and a Catholic reform group called Voice of the Faithful (VOTF.org)
WHY
Reasons we are taking this action:
* The ongoing failure of Catholic Church officials to protect children from dangerous clerical predators
* The bishops’ failure to provide acceptable levels of stewardship for Catholics’ hard-earned donations
* The refusal of Church officials to accept responsibility for their grave moral failures in the clergy sex abuse crisis. They repeatedly “apologize,” but neither admit to covering up sex crimes against children nor accept their part in the grave scandal brought down upon Catholics everywhere.
* After almost 6 years since the Dallas Charter of 2002, high-level Church officials are still protecting both clerical sexual predators and those who shield these predators
* Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony approved a $660 million settlement with clergy sex abuse victims, yet still uses every legal maneuver at his disposal to maintain the secrecy of Church files he agreed to hand over to victims’ attorneys as part of the settlement.
* Catholics have no elections, recall procedures, or impeachment processes that allow them to replace those who have cost parishioners so much. Withholding donations is the best way for a disenfranchised laity to send, with one voice, a message to church officials in the only language they understand–MONEY!
CONTACT – Frank Douglas, national director of Send the Bishops a Message, 520 404 2489 (cell) or 520 579 9575 (home); Debby Bodkin 949 290 5516; Mary Jane McGraw 818 917 3555; Sam Cordova 818 667 1005
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Clergy sex abuse victims blast church - SNAP Press Release
23 Nov 2009
... SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, ... call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball ...
www.snapnetwork.org/snap.../112309_clergy_sex_abuse_victims_blast_church.htm
SNAP Press Release
Clergy sex abuse victims blast church
KC-based denomination blames child victims for their abuse
Legal move is “mean spirited” & “designed to intimidate,” group says
SNAP to church officials: “Reach out to, not lash out at, children who’ve been hurt”
“Have you learned nothing from the on-going Catholic sex scandal?” victims challenge church
WHAT
Holding signs and childhood photos at a sidewalk news conference, clergy sex abuse victims will
-- harshly criticize a KC-based national church organization for filing court papers that blame children who were molested for their own abuse,
-- call on church members to stop donating to the denomination until the hardball legal tactics stop, and
-- beg anyone who saw, suspected or suffer child sex crimes or cover ups in the church group to call police and get help
WHEN
Monday, Nov. 23, 11:30 am
WHERE
Outside the Church of the Nazarene Headquarters, at 6401 Paseo Blvd (corner of Meyer & 63rd. st.) in Kansas City, MO (816-333-7000)
WHO
Three members of a support group called SNAP (the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, SNAPnetwork.org)
WHY
Last year, five girls (three from Oklahoma and one from Louisiana) filed a civil child sex abuse and cover up lawsuit seeking unspecified damage against men and institutions with the KC-based Church of the Nazarene. In response, church officials have filed court papers charging that, to some degree, the girls are to blame for their own victimization. SNAP calls the legal maneuver “outrageous and immoral.” The self help group believes that church officials will likely stop exploiting such harsh tactics if church members withhold donations in protest.
Starting around 2000, the girls were reportedly “sexually molested, abused, fondled and inappropriately touched” by their children's pastor, Ryan Wonderly in an Oklahoma City suburb. Wonderly attended Southern Nazarene University (SNU) and admitted to an SNU staffer named Lynn Sims that he had problems with child porn, according to the lawsuit. Instead of helping, suspending or expelling Wonderly, SNU officials permitted him to continue on as an intern children's pastor at Bethany First Church of the Nazarene across the street. Church members and employees there repeatedly reported suspicious and inappropriate behavior and touching by Wonderly to higher ups, but little was done. Police arrested Wonderly in 2004. He is now behind bars, having been sentenced to 35 years.
Wonderly also reportedly worked at a church camp where children from 22 counties from northwest Oklahoma attended each year.
Defendants include 4 church institutions (the Nazarene General Board, the church’s Northwest Oklahoma District, Southern Nazarene University, and Bethany First Church of the Nazarene) and 4 individuals (Doug Forsberg, Lewis McClain, Harold “Melvin” McCullough, Preston “Lynn” Sims).
The church’s district office is in Oklahoma City.
The congregation (405-789-2050) and the university are in Bethany (405-789-6400). Three of the defendants live in Oklahoma (McClain in Bethany, Forsberg in Yukon, and Sims in Oklahoma City) and one (McCullough) lives in Missouri (in Johnson County, suburban Kansas City).
The lawsuit was filed in May 2008 in Oklahoma County, OK (Case No. CJ 2008 3689). The court clerk is Patricia Presley.
http://www.kwtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8217135, http://newsok.com/article/3234282/1209013863\
CONTACT:
Judy Jones 636-433-2511, David Clohessy 314-566-9790
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CNN to ponder faith and money
By John L Allen Jr
Created Dec 09, 2009
http://ncronline.org/blogs/future-church/cnn-ponder-faith-and-money
I’m in New York this week, with part of the agenda being to tape a panel discussion for an upcoming CNN special on “Faith and Money.” The program is hosted by Christine Romans, and is scheduled to air on Dec. 19. (Coincidentally, that’s the last day of Hanukkah this year.)
I don't identify money management as a self-standing trend in The Future Church, but it's hard to imagine much of a future for any religious enterprise if it's broke. As the saying goes, the love of money may be the root of all evil ... but you sure do miss the money when it's gone.
The CNN program covers a vast range of topics, from the economics of Mega-churches (a segment driven by an interview with Joel Osteen) to the effect of church money on American politics. I was part of a panel devoted to trying to gauge the impact of the economic crisis on religious groups around the country.
Without stealing the show’s thunder, I can briefly summarize three points I tried to make:
First, religion may be the only industry in America whose bottom line actually suffers when demand goes up, and that’s exactly the current situation. Demand for charitable help is spiking, with record numbers of people asking for assistance with food, medicine, emergency shelter, and rent and mortgage payments. At the same time, revenue for many religious groups is down. In the Catholic world, parishes are reporting slight drop-offs in weekly collections (one estimate pegs the national average at five percent), while income from major foundations and investments is down on the order of 20 to 35 percent. As a result, many religious groups are now between a rock and a hard place.
It’s worth bearing in mind that there’s been no TARP program and no bail-out for non-profit groups in America, despite the fact that they’re our last line of defense when times get tough. When the public safety net breaks down, and when families can’t provide care, it’s non-profit groups, especially faith-based groups, that step into the gap, and many right now are struggling. (The not-for-profit sector, by the way, also represents 11 percent of all jobs in America.) All this, perhaps, represents an extra reason for Americans to try to be generous in their support of non-profit and faith-based charities.
Second, impressions of vast wealth in the Catholic church, perhaps especially the Vatican, are more myth than reality. As I’ve pointed out many times, the annual budget of the Vatican is about $300 million, while the University of Notre Dame by itself has a budget of over $1 billion. That means Notre Dame could fund the Vatican three times ever year and still have money left over for new football uniforms!
As a result, there are no bags of cash sitting in the basement of the Apostolic Palace in Rome that could be shipped off to the United States (or anywhere else) to help local churches out when money is tight.
Third, dollars are cents are perhaps the single clearest example of how external impressions of Catholicism as highly centralized and rigidly controlled break down.
The Catholic church isn’t Wal-Mart, where even the temperature level in individual stores is controlled by a central computer in Arkansas. Not only are the financial decisions of individual dioceses made autonomously, but most often that’s the case parish-to-parish. Even within parishes, sometimes the most elementary financial controls are missing.
If that weren’t the case, it’s hard to imagine how two priests in Florida could have been recently busted for skimming almost $9 million in parish money to fund trips to Las Vegas, or how the District Attorney in Buffalo, New York, could have prosecuted six embezzlement cases in Catholic parishes since 2005 alone, with the grand total exceeding $2 million.
Right now, however, two forces may be pushing the Catholic church toward greater coordination of its financial life.
One is the desire to get a handle on misappropriation. A Villanova study recently found that 85 percent of parishes that responded to a questionnaire reported some problem with embezzlement in the last five years, and that reality is leading a number of pastors and bishops to try to strengthen controls.
The other is the opportunity cost produced by a lack of coordination. The National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management recently calculated that if you add up all the Catholic parishes and dioceses in America, they have a total purchasing power of some $105 billion – nearly twice that of Home Depot. By coordinating its buying activity, the church could theoretically achieve some impressive economies of scale.
If nothing else, I hope that whets the appetite for the Dec. 19 CNN special, which considers not just the Catholic situation but the entire gamut of American religion and its relationship with the “almighty dollar.”
Comments:
Dear John. Your comment on
Submitted by Joanna Manning (not verified) on Dec. 09, 2009.
Dear John.
Your comment on this CNN inquiry into on the wealth of the churches and their co-option into the "almighty dollar" theology of American life is interesting. You seem to apologize for the wealth of the Vatican, on the grounds that the Vatican's assets are relatively small in comparison to other corporations. Does this indicate that you support a theology of the Catholic Church's mission in contemporary North American society that is loth to challenge its status as a corporation that has invested its financial assets in the status quo to such an extent that it is now inextricably part of the 'realpolitik' of corporate life? If so, I wonder how this view would stand up to the market economics of the early church as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 5: vv. 1-11. Ananias and Sapphira are struck dead for - abortion? sex? - no! - because of not sharing their wealth, and about how much they had lied about their profits from their investments so that they could retain control over a part of their assets.
How many times in Sunday services do we hear semons preached on this passage from Acts? Food for thought for all of us in the North American church....
Joanna Manning
Toronto, Canada
John, It is my hope that
Submitted by ghfisher (not verified) on Dec. 10, 2009.
John,
It is my hope that somebody in the group discussed the terrible waste of money hiring lawyers to prevent documents from being released - even after the diocese's pedifile cases had been settled - Mostly to protect some Cardinal (be him from LA or NY) from embarrassment. And this does not even consider the money used to hide the truth rather than treat the victims.
I now give very careful consideration of how and to whom I make charitable contributions. The diocese in Maine went out to the US Church to support the opposition to CIVIL gay marriage. As a result of election laws I read that Bishop D'Arcy sent $1000.00 of 'my' contribution to support this cause. How much 'Catholic' money was spent in CA to defeat Prop 8?
We are also 'expected' to contribute to the current Inquisition of Nuns - another denigration of women.
I could go on but you get my drift.
I have no reason to expect any contribution made to a general Church fund to be spent in support of charity so I contribute directly to St Mary's Soup Kitchen in Fort Wayne, our sister parish in Bolivia, other Catholic charities and earmark my parish contributions so that they are not subject to Bishop D/Arcy's Tax.
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